"But ... that's how you make your money," interjected Alexis Kasperavičius, Mitnick's longtime friend, business partner and one-time co-conspirator.
Basking in anonymity with relaxed ease, Kasperavičius offers a sharp contrast to Mitnick's tense reserve. Although he felt the pull of computer break-ins as a teenager, and even tagged along with Mitnick on some jobs, he says he quit before he got into serious trouble.
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